A Look at 19 Social Activities Services

[11/17//2006 - version 2 adds BusyTonight, Submate, Vibely]
After reading the TechCrunch article on nascent activities-centered websites, I decided to take my own look at the activities space. I wound up examining nineteen ventures by the end. Their aims may seem too desparate to lump together in one examination. However, in the abstract, they all attempt to catalyze social interaction, and, technically, there are only a dozen or so features that they all try to implement in various combinations. For your visual stimulation, I've produced two graphics, one a venn-type diagram attempting to categorize each service and the other a feature set chart. My notes on the services should be read in order as later ones will build on earlier ones. I consider their major focus, ie their marketing position and the way they are actually used, not the subset of possibilities rarely or never tapped.
Evite Meetup Facebook Events MySpace Events HeyLetsGo Skobee Socializr ilcu Eventful Upcoming.org Zvents Showaholic SonicLiving Whosgoing Weekendr MatchActivity Renkoo Planypus Involver

Well-established for young professionals. We use it in DC every week to plan parties. It facilities the party pattern-invite, inform, RSVP--very well. Evite is a reference standard. Most parties are private and not visible to those not on the guest list. IAC is stagnating this property. They are neither evolving the feature set nor looking for synergies with Ticketmaster or possibly udate. Such is life in a corporate conglomerate. A feature set like Renkoo's or Renkoo itself would make a good extension of Evite. (Steve Poland has ideas for Evite and Friendster.)
Another reference standard. I get meetup emails all the time but I hardly use the service. My impression is that it serves well niche interests, eg knitting or interior design or kickball, and older and more thoughtful singles. It is a great system for managing and promoting club activities. A lot of the event driven sites below reposition feature sets pioneered by meetup. Unlike Evite, they are slowly adding features like friends lists and testimonials. We'll see if the technical enabling can produce social cohesiveness for a disparate group of people.
Facebook Events and Myspace Events
The two parent sites need no introduction. With such large memberships and youthful demographics, any sliver of participation in the events section is still huge. Partygoers see lists of public and semi-private parties and organizers can invite guests Evite style. MySpace tends to see promoted commercial events; Facebook sees youthful cultural events and private gatherings.
I'll use this space to make two parenthetical remarks: the MySpace membership is devolving to shit, ie fake profiles are polluting the site, and they seem too busy monetizing their eyeballs to actually improve the feature set. Facebook seems to keep it real with the .edu registration requirement though this could change if they follow through on plans to open up the membership. They seem relentless in adding really cool social features. Maybe it's inevitable that once you hit mainstreet and get bought out that the mentality turns to preservation and exploitation.
HeyLetsGo is for Boston what Craigslist was for San Francisco. Boston is a compact city dense with young professionals and academics. Each year brings a new cohort of educated singles on a career or study track that lasts several years. The vibrant social activity on HeyLetsGo exemplifies the untapped potential of upcoming.org's or eventful's feature set.
Surprisingly, given the dominance of MySpace and Facebook, HLG's social networking component seems strong. Based on what I see in DC, the strength of Facebook peters out when the members graduate. HLG hits the post-college sweet spot, at least in Boston.
No question that HeyLetsGo owns Boston. Can they follow Craigslist's example and clone success in other cities? (Or follow Facebook or SitterCity out of Beantown?) It's open question perhaps best left to trial.
If HLG want to stay local, a strategic option would be for Jack Welch to gobble them up once Welch buys the Boston Globe or for them to merge with Friendster, which despite their gross incompetence, still has a sliver of the same demographic nationwide.
HLG is reportedly funded from Highland Capital Partners and plans to be in San Francisco and New York City at the end of 2006. Personally, I would hit DC before either of those two cities.
Skobee
Skobee never progressed far beyond a good idea. Why? The evite model--announce an event, invite, solicit RSVPs--flops when applied to small groups. Invitation is a yield game: you invite a large number to get a good number of guests. It's socially acceptable. Inviting a small number to yield a tiny number, especially in the open, appears needy and socially lame. Subsequent services seem to understand this and squelch the fishy smell of neediness by repositioning idiosyncratic plans as exhibitionism or casting plans as attendance at public events and broadcasting that as a soft-invitation. Technical features must align with prevailing unwritten social norms or, if otherwise, take root with a younger generation.
Just to clarify, in the evite model one person dictates a firm plan and invites others to join. This is distinct from the case where a posse makes plans together. What, when, and where are all potentially up for negotiation. Planypus and Renkoo seek to facilitate small group dynamic planning. 3Jam's enables that over SMS.
The genius who brought us Friendster then lost the billion dollar game to second and third comers is back. I didn't have access to the gamma trial of the site. This review is based on publically available pages of the site. Jonathan Abram's second effort looks like Friendster + Evite. But there are already plenty of similar if not more novel services coming online, eg Involver and Planypus. If Abrahm's star still shines brightly in SF maybe he will have the initial membership seeding to make it a success there. They will surely go after HLG's same post-college demographic. Socializr better launch before Q4. (Props to Steve Poland of Vested Ventures for publicizing the socializr and its links.)
This new Israel-based service aggregates public events in a few major international cities. Nice style with a focus on event participant profiles but basically isomorphic to a whole bunch of sites in this review. Aside from targetting the J-Date demographic, I don't see the competitive advantage.
Eventful, Upcoming.org and Zvents
These sites aspire to replace the local city paper listings in their dreams. Eventful is perhaps the most competent and encyclopedic in feature set. All are a bit dry and lack stylistic zing. They all have the ability to allow individuals to RSVP attendance to public events. Only on upcoming.org do people actually use it, and then underwhelmingly. The local city papers (their websites) win out on the comprehensiveness of mainstream cultural listings. I did find a SecondLife related real life event on upcoming.org but not in the city paper.
Whatever the quality of the listings, perhaps the platform is what counts. For their completeness, most city papers seem to have a passive print to web mentality and haven't done much in the way of adapting their listings to online life, much less create something novel. Eventful and Upcoming.org have APIs that if combined with APIs in other spaces, particularly communication, could catalyze new interactions. (I have ideas…)
These two are like the three sites above but focused on pop music. Showaholic is buggy and barren of content. This Ruby on Rails project isn't ready for primetime. SonicLiving pretty much works and seems to have an active user base of SF music scenesters. They are too cool for MySpace. Perhaps the Power of Focus is really the way to Cross the Chasm. SonicLiving gets its concert feed from the related tourfilter project. Whatever the ultimate source, the emphasis is on concert dates and alerting fans and helping them find each other. Gabriel Beneviste's effort looks earnestly grassroots and free of VC funding, expectations and meddling. They could rock SF music the way HeyLetsGo rocks post-collegiate Boston. Can it grow beyond?
The two Ws aggregate the loose change of personal plans. "I'm changing my tires on Sunday." Given their relative newness, a typical use case hasn't been established yet. So far they seem to define social life down and give a marketplace or stage for the mundane.
Whosgoing's novelty is a participant selection mechanism and fee system: the organizer gets to chose the participants, kinda like MatchActivity but for groups and platonic purpose. Is it socially cool for the organizer and participant to do something like this out in the open?
Weekendr's main goal seems to be Twitter-like exhibitionism with a secondary Skobee-like practical function. Skobee died. Either the public dashboard of private activity will be the juice Skobee's concept needed or it will be mere dressing for the same wilted salad.
Any idea is validated with a large user base. The masses are never wrong. Right now they are in show me mode, and they need a model base to show us the way. My prediction is that like Skobee and without an independent draw they will fail to attract a large user base. Some ideas are great… when fed to a huge and focused MySpace or Facebook-like membership.
MatchActivity reframes online dating by setting up the first date. The organizer posts an activity and selects the date from the responding applicants. Sounds great. The novelty alone won't be a sufficient draw. It will be like any dating site and require marketing dollars.
Renkoo=Evite+Twitter ~ virtual social caucus. The time has come for real time multi-modal group event planning. The target should be flocks of busy hip urbanites who make plans at the last minute from a menu of too many choices. Will they have a skobee problem of novel idea but no audience? Their feature set could perhaps best be exploited by the likes of a Facebook or Evite where flocks already exist. Maybe they will find the social planning frame too vertical and open up an API to leverage the utility of the platform. Perhaps flocking or swarm planning would be best facilitated over more basic systems like 3Jam or Pinger. Either of these services have the strategic option of going vertical into Renkoo's space though it's more likely that Renkoo goes more basic.
Planypus is coming with a similar feature set…
Oh yeah, I didn't participate in the beta. I looked at pictures on their homepage.
Joyce Park, famously canned by Friendster, is one of the co-founders of Renkoo. She got in trouble with management for blogging about their technical issues. That move was symptomatic of the intolerance for personality--and perhaps conscientious engineering--that cost Friendster their first mover advantage.
Who says the wealthy dynasties must lapse into consumptive oblivion? A young member of the Priztker clan is at the helm of this startup. They are pre-beta so I haven't seen the service yet. From Yan Pritzker's communication in the comments to this post, it seems that Planypus will indeed, like Renkoo, tackle the problem of flock or swarm planning for near term activities. What to do itself can be part of the planning process. Among typical uses, groups can decide what where to eat and make reservations through Planypus or select an event from a feed. (Read the comments left by Yan for a better idea of what they have in store.) By the way, for Ruby fans out there, Planypus appears to be a Ruby on Rails production.
I wasn't involved in the beta. From their pictures and blog posts, it looks like this service will let you surf friends' plans and a listing of filtered aggregated feeds using recommendation intelligence. Sounds again like great ideas in need of an audience. Who will they target first?
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October 27th, 2006 23:27
Hi, Yan from Planypus here. Thanks for the blog! We’d be happy to invite you in for a preview in the next couple days. We are launching in about two weeks though we are finalizing some usability issues and minor bugs. By the way, i should mention that I am unfortunately not exactly from the Pritzker Clan….well not close enough to be blessed with the cash
October 27th, 2006 23:37
By the way, I will have to argue very strongly against your public/private event theory. In my opinion private events are where it’s at. But not in the Evite or Renkoo sense of one person determining all the details.
What matters is not the event itself, but you and your friends attending it. Let’s say there’s a concert, you don’t really care to ‘rsvp’ to this abstract public notion of the concert. What matters is getting your friends to go. This is where Planypus comes in. Planypus solves the problem of _making plans_ to go to the event in question. This works very well for small groups.
Planypus shines when it comes to casual things. It originally came about to solve the problem of friday night dinners that my friends and I had after work. You’re not going to sit there and call 10 people while you’re at work and try to negotiate a place to go for dinner, that’s just ridiculous. So Planypus is a very open and democratic way of doing this.
I can go on, literally take 10 seconds to type “lets go to dinner”, then go back to work as my friends figure out where they want to go, post times and locations, vote on them, use a wiki-like Planspace, make reservations, and then I get a message on my phone telling me where to be. I spent ten seconds and now I’m going to dinner with ten of my friends and there was absolutely no pain in getting this organized.
Since we launched our alpha test we have actually seen dramatic social changes…people who never called their friends to go out because of the hassle, are now using planypus daily to post cool happenings and get their friends to go. It’s so casual and easy that it actually makes it more likely we’ll go out!
October 28th, 2006 00:16
My complaint was directed towards any service that tries to set up private events for small groups _ahead_ of time, be it Evite, Skobee, Weekendr, or Whosgoing _and_ in an invitation / RSVP fashion: “Let’s have lunch Sunday 1 PM at Pizza Hut in two weeks.” As I discussed in Renkoo’s case, which appears to be Planypus’ case too, there seems to be great value in dynamic, multilateral planning–the “virtual caucus”–between members of a flock or swarm or posse, particularly for near term events. Your example of friends getting together for dinner on a Friday night is a perfect example of a common group planning problem. Certainly a Planypus type system would be more open and democratic.
October 28th, 2006 00:24
Oh yeah I absolutely agree. There’s no sense in setting up lunch two weeks ahead. We’ve seen a lot of same-day even couple hours before type of usage, and this is why it’s important to integrate things like SMS which we’re actively working on.
From what we’ve seen with Renkoo, they’ve been pretty stagnant for the last three months, not much progress although they claim to be working on a new version. We’ve taken a more iterative approach, coming up with new features weekly or biweekly and letting our alpha users try them out so we can get a feel for how this works. We’ve been growing our userbase slowly and organically for now…
Besides having the dynamic planning features we’re also focusing on tight integration with local content so if you see a concert you want to go to, or maybe a restaurant or movie, you can one-click plan it. Planypus will also integrate with event blogs so if you have a favorite blog in your city which publishes cool happenings, you’ll be able to use Planypus to make plans with your friends to go to those events with pretty much just a couple clicks. We’ve got a lot more cool ideas up our sleeves so stay tuned
October 28th, 2006 10:04
Hi, this is Alex Chizhik writing and I am also from the Planypus team. I would like to thank you for the mention and to commend you on your analysis of planning arena. Your Venn diagram and feature set map are right on the money. Great short and informative analysis!
October 28th, 2006 11:51
[...] Minger.net wrote an articel about different social activities services with all the different features. He also wrote and compare weekendr and other social networking sites. See the full post here! [...]
October 29th, 2006 12:08
Hi, Brian Dear, founder of Eventful here. Couple quick comments on your feature comparison chart.
1) Eventful has categories. Events are all categorized. In fact we show categories right on the home page.
2) Eventful has always had tags, since day one. Every object on the site is taggable by users: events, venues, performers, demands, calendars, groups.
- Brian
October 29th, 2006 13:42
I’ve rectified the omissions in the chart.
October 30th, 2006 08:58
[...] With social bookmarking and sharing being all the rage nowadays, it was only a matter of time before event sharing sites began cropping up. We’ve covered a few like ZVents and a few others before, but many more have started up since. Minger.net has a good article which takes a look at 19 different social activity services and offers a nice and quick overview of each. You may also be interested in reading: [...]
October 30th, 2006 12:38
Hello, John Kim from Vibely.com just chiming in. First off, I’d like to say great read for all of us involved or interested in the social-networking space. I agree with you on most of your points, especially where you say that these new sites implement similar features in various combinations. I don’t think this is necessarily a bad thing, as every socially interactive site requires many of the same features, such as a profile, friends list, commenting, etc. But I can definitely see how a new event-planning social networking site coming to market these days can easily get blended among the other 20 similar sites. I noticed that most of the sites you covered focus more on push, rather than pull, event planning. By push I mean a person pushes an event at his/her friends by posting the details and having them join in. Pull refers to herding behavior, where a person isn’t sure of their plans for the weekend and would like to see their options and see where other people/friends are headed. At Vibely, we provide both forms of event planning and definitely see more members using the pull method over the push. Of course this doesn’t really say much with our small Washington DC based user base, but it allows us to see what our users want and adjust accordingly. I think the combination for success will emerge with time and user preference.
- John
(love your blog btw)
October 30th, 2006 14:17
Hey - John from Who’s Going here. Great article! We’re happy to be in such good company. Let me know if you need any more information.
October 30th, 2006 14:41
Hey, Minger folks.
Very interesting analysis.
I think your slicing by public vs. private is sharp and one of the ways we view the world.
Thanks for your tips for HLG as well.
Best,
Roy
October 30th, 2006 17:16
Hey John,
Pushed versus Pulled is a great way of thinking about things. To illustrate the concepts from my personal experience, I gave my phone number to several DC area promoters under the guise of personal relationships and now I get SMS spammed by them every week with party promotions. They push to me and I “passively” pull. The relationship is asymmetric in that I have no interest in ever pushing to them. I think the regime that vibely seeks to set up is one where everyone pushes and pulls. It’s like being in a chatroom or trading floor. A trader can buy (pull) or sell (push) at any given moment and scans the trading floor for someone with a complementary trade. In Vibely, the map of individual locations and plans is like the trading floor. (In a few years the trading floor analogy will be a totally anachronistic concept!)
-Ming
October 30th, 2006 21:21
This message is for Ming and John Kim. I am also in the DC area. I want to jump start the tech-entrepreneurship arena here in dc as it seems to be lacking. Would you guys be interested in meeting up and/or starting tech entrepreneurship events in DC? Let me know: achizhik@gmail.com
November 8th, 2006 11:49
Why is it so damn hard to find my friends on a social network?!…
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December 17th, 2006 12:01
Very interesting comparison of Social Activities Services…
Here is a very interesting look at some of the major Social Activities Services available today. I particularly like the diagram depicting some central dimensions to consider when choosing a service to use. Personally I would further like to see these …
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